http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 In forum SL Wallet Public Forum en-us Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:59:08 -0800 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:59:08 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/ Kudang SQL2RSS admin@slcapex.com webmaster@slcapex.com 60 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
the usual buybacks will happen (according to his post in the other thread) until 1.03 L$ is reached. i don't get people playing some weird mindgames in here, accusing every single one of the huge shareholders of manipulating the price and holding the value of the shares as low as they're actually. they have the right to sell and buy shares for every amount they want to. if you see prices drop, you're stupid if you don't invest, wait until they've risen 5-7 % and sell them again much below 1.03 and trust me, until now, the amount of these shares is so large that the daytraders with 100.000+ shares control the market and earn their money, coz it already IS above the 0.1% that were paid as interest before the banking ban.

i suggest all the people making accusations in here either sell and leave or wait and play the game. nobody ever forced you to bring your money to JTF, nobody ever forced you to sell shares at 0.60 but some who have just gone mad and paranoid did and that's why we are facing this situation now.

you can think all you want to think about me now but nothing will turn me away from this path.

regards, angi

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Angi Fargis ]]> Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:05:46 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11601 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 I guess its the buyorders at 0.55.in the orderbook.


20080410 20080413 20080415
Arbitrage Wise 6,371,599 6,430,516 6,571,164
Arthesia Beck 5,150,341 5,150,341 5,150,341
Senzai Murakami 4,570,149 4,570,149 4,570,149
JIMBO Juergens 2,193,661 2,193,661 2,193,661
Bogart Beck 1,450,003 1,500,004 1,500,004
Samson Burt 1,273,610 1,273,610 1,273,610
Kanste Bade 1,256,671 1,256,671 1,256,671
Andreas Mill 1,110,000 1,110,000 1,110,000
chan Tanabe 1,106,635 1,106,635 1,106,635
Sully Okelly 943,073 943,073 955,078
Other shareholders 59,574,200 59,465,282 59,312,629
Total shares in company 84,999,942

Anyone who knows what format to use when i paste from excel, to show the numbers in columns ?


in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sean4you Shepherd ]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:27:10 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11530 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 To quote you:
"Dont think that it would be a good idea when Arb would publish a date for the next buyback.

A lot of traders would set their sell orders in the right time and the regular JT customers wouldn be paid because of too high amounts at the prizes between 0.95 and 1.03.

It would be better Arb pays the old amounts of his customers 1:1 when he is able to, behind of slcapex..."

This is flawed thinking and just what honest Arb wants you to fall for. If he can make you swallow this line of thinking, it allows him to drag the price of the stock out longer, at a low price for him to buy them at, for as long as he possibly can. If he let them get max. profit, what does that matter to people he is suppose to be paying 1.03 per share for their stock. You should be concentrating on the fact that we need to get the stock price up to as close to 1.03 per share as we can and not be listening to his double speak. If he let them set their price to sell higher, then everyone buying up stock would be willing to set their sale price higer and we would get to the 1.03 per share price faster, but he would have to be paying more per share than with it low and he doesn't want that. All we care about is getting our 1.03 per share that he owes us and he owes that on all the shares, even the ones sold low and the day trader bought. Sure, he will have more to spend per share if her buys low all the time, but he wins big time on what he owes buy doing so and he hurts us by dragging the scam out as long as he possibly can. The longer he drags it out, the more likely people waiting will give in to him and sell low just to get something or walk away and forget they ever saw Arb or JTF, let alone this SLW con job of Arb's. Arb is using the day traders to help him buy this stock back as low as possible, that is pretty obvious. The other thing is, you are also assuming that the day traders are selling all of what they buy, to Arb for just a little over what they bought it for, which I can guarantee you isn't true, except for only enough to keep manipulating the price down with and make a little profit at the same time. They are all aiming at the big payoff when the stock has to be bought back by Arb at much closer to the price that he should be buying it back for. Some of them have already stated, in this forum that they are selling chucks of stocks at graduated prices up to and including 1.03, so again Arb's double speak doesn't hold water. I bet that a larger percentage of them have at least half the stock they bought up cheap, set to sell at 1.03 already, just like the rest of us have it set to sell for.

Arb had no good reason to set this scam up except for a way for him to pay off depositors at a low percentage of what he owes them. It certainly isn't benifiting any of the JTF depositors and and it sure is benifitting him a lot. So ignore the day traders and focus on the real problem to us and that is Arb! Arb will only pay us 1.03 per share if he has absolutely no other way out that he can dream up to con us with. So let the day traders sell high to him and not low, so we can get this price up and set your sell price just a little under 1.03 becaue good old honest Arb, has already, as I have quoted him twice, in the forum as saying, is not going to do any more buy backs, once the stock price gets to 1.03. This will force him to have to buy the stock from us and we will only take a small hit and less of a hit over all, plus Arb will have to be paying out, per stock, closer to what he should be and even if one of us just can't hold out any longer, at least let them have a chance to sell in the .70 and up range for once instead of going along with his smooth talking and helping him keep the price per share down. So I am 100% in favor of him doing the right thing for at least once, and tell the world when he is going to do a buy back, that would force the price up quick and also help hold it up there for once, so he can't continue screwing over the JTF depositors.

On you last point I do agree, he should have never turned our bank deposits into stock without our permission, but he was only thinking of how he could get himself out of the mess he created with the least pain to himself and to heck with the JTF depostitors.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jill Clary ]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:56:30 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11527 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Honest Arb is suggesting that he used it to develop some commerical sportsbetting software. Really though who knows?It may have bought him a new BMW or a cottage on the lake as well. What we do know it was well over 200k USD of our money has flowed into his bank account. Hopefully the IRS is keeping a close eye on things.

People have been saying 'well atleast he hasnt just folded up shop' to which I reply 'why would he'? He still has revenue flowing in and he still has the support of the OBC. So why would he go anywhere?

Cheers

Ivan

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Ivan Halfpint ]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:57:27 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11526 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
All the money was said to be used for development of software. Yet the shares that got bought back will not be retired but used to pay off the developer and management. He in turn can on longer term sell the shares again for marketvalue. Wasn't the developer already paid with the first 85 million or so, why shareholders will in the end pay another time for the shares of the developer en Co.
There is NO WAY that all this millions of Lindens is invested in software. Software of a stockexchange is sold for 1 million in the past. Where did the money go to. It must be in other funds (Capex?), land, assisting other companies to grow, Paypal or personal bankaccount, furniture, what more can we think of except of the developers account. Is there a datasheet with ALL spend money and it's given purpose and the current value of assets purchased?

A bank with so much outstanding deposits would never, ever, burry the money so deep investments that are long term development that is still a babyproduct from which no one knows if the creation of the company will succeed and become profitable at last. It simply cannot be true. It would be a extremely unresponsible move of a bigtime player who does not care about how stuck depositors/made shareholders/investors in an unknown uncertain product, are at the moment. How ever could you make the decision to use peoples money invested longterm and deep in the ground where it would never be able to be dug out on request. Banks depositors simpy should have been honoured that right. Indeed a bank needs only a certain percentage for people who want to pull out but this does not give you the right to put in it position of not being able to acces these funds at anytime needed. Is a liquidation of shareholders assets in progress or are you still playing with the money and reinvesting in other 'fun' projects.

Thanks for concidderation.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Stryker Yoshikawa ]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:23:45 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11520 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Cheers

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Ivan Halfpint ]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:19:17 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11500 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
as CEO of this company and we, your investors, as we have stock in said company it is not only our right but our duty to ask why. That is the reason you post your meeting notes and now have all things set out so we the stock holders can see. So really you saying not to question you is really not how business work. We aren't employees, we have invested...either happily through buying up others stocks or not so willingly as getting stocks for our balances. You gave us that right instead of making them just IOUs for us to hold on to. If they were just IOUs then we would have no right to question why or how you do things. This is how business works. I have not posted much as this whole mess is terrible and I am sick of waiting and waiting for my money (as others are from the sounds of their posts) though I am not bailing out at a much lower rate then promised. Please remember we can and will be always asking questions.


To those that urge others to keep their sales up at $1.03, I hope that one day we get to see that buy back. I keep mine up there in that hopes. I never wanted to play the stocks but I guess now that I am in it this is how it goes.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Barbie Chaika ]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:15:48 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11492 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 Yes, that is correct. If someone wants to manipulate the price down he place large sellorders low so other who wants to sell are forced to sell lower.
He can also put several sellorders lower and lower.
When the arbitragecompany Optiver(www.optiver.com) drives the price down they put orders both on buy and sell and force others to sell. When OPT notice there is too many who sells , they withdraw their buyorders and force the seller to next lower level. Of course they take positions om many levels in the orderbook.
And similar strategy when they drive the price up.
This requires a lot of shares.
And finally when they have driven the price down, many small investors panic because they believe the price will drop even more. And sell for marketprice.

Sean


in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sean4you Shepherd ]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:51:24 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11469 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
I still don't see how you can drive the price down in that manor. Who is selling 500,000 at a low price? Where did they buy/get those shares and why are they selling at a loss?

You say sell 500,000 at .70
so if I follow then they are wanting to buy more shares at a cheaper price by forcing anyone else wanting to sell to got to .69 etc.

The only fault is if people don't offer to sell lower or people don't buy at .70. I guess after the other sells under .70 start piling up, then you cancel your large 500,000 sell order?

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Shaggy Yer ]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:40:52 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11460 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
you list AW's options:

"1... Arb disappears - with all our cash that's left owing.

2... Arb continues to buy back and pay back as he can and is.

The reason I ask is because those ARE the options - no matter how much you like it or not."

However there is option 3: Pay everybody dollar for dollar. Repayment would take longer but he wouldn't be profiting from it.

I wish you a lot of patience as to waiting for being bought out at 1.03. Have you ever calculated how long will it take to buy 80 million shares at the rate of 1 million per month? Do it. It's quite simple math.


in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Spm Aviatik ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:03:29 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11093 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Sure, I can understand the problem he had and I was defending him on it. I believed in him and that he really was trying to liquidate and pull together the funds to make all our balances good again. I was even going to leave my account with him after he did that, because, if he did as he said he was going to do, it would have been such and act of honesty that I'd be a fool to risk putting my money with an unknown entity when he was so trust worthy. That has all been completely shattered by this stunt, he has pulled, and shown him to be a con man instead of someone that you can trust.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jill Clary ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:39:14 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11088 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
You coulda at least got my name right.....

some reporter ;P -Poking fun-}

Ha! Sorry about that. That'll teach me to reply to a post just after waking up! Posts by Jini and Jill in this thread... gonna have to pay more attention to that! hehehe
Again, sorry about that. As for being a reporter, I haven't done any of that since June of last year. Maybe it was a good idea to retire from that. hehehehe

Honoris Causa...
Silverblade Dagger

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Silverblade Dagger ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:37:52 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11087 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
You coulda at least got my name right.....

some reporter ;P -Poking fun-

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jini Hammerer ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:51:50 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11086 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Seems to me the only people being "scammed" are the people who are scamming themselves. No one is putting a gun to people's heads and telling them to sell for less than L$1.03. No one. There are a good many reasons some people are selling short, and that's probably because they need the Lindens for paying tier or just panicking because people are spouting conspiracy theories about how the sky is falling.

{Jill Hammerer - If he wanted to stop the bitching all he has to do is answer the questions people have a right to know with real answers not smoke and mirror bullshit he has been giving.}

It wouldn't matter, people would still bitch, whine, and complain because no answer Arb could give would be the answer some people want to hear. Sometimes I suspect people want to hear him say, "Yep, I'm screwing you all over, deal with it." But that simply isn't the case, otherwise, why would he put up with running CapEx/SLW?

{Jill Hammerer - The people defending him love to throw the you did not complain about the daily intrest.
Ok where did that come from, was it from the investment or was it robing peter to pay paul smoke and mirror bull shit.
He states the money is invested, fine where IS the $250,000 US investmented? Its not his money he invested, Its yours and you have a right to know if he is using it to push drugs to school kids or using it to fund terroristic attacks or if its actually invested at all.}

Simple answer that has been stated over and over again, but because people can't accept the truth.... juicetrading.com. About a year ago, before SLW, before SLCapEX, I approached Arbitrage for an article I was writing for the magazine I was working for. There were several times I asked him "off the record" about what he was invested in, and he didn't tell me. He did tell me about plans he had which have come to pass to this day, plans to open an exchange, and plans to create SL Wallet. I only put this "on the record" now because it's long after the fact that these two plans have become public.

{Jill Hammerer - What makes this crooked what REALLY makes it dirty is that those investments are not part of what the stock represents.}

What makes this unfortunate, is that LL decided to punish banks who really were crooked AND those who were not with a blanket ban on interest. Yeah, it got rid of the crooks, but it also put the honest banks in a very rough spot. Why don't you ask your RL bank how much liquid cash it has on hand right now. If there was a run on a RL bank, would you complain because you can't get your funds out? Why no, you'd call them a scam because you expect a bank to come up with your interest payments out of thin air!

Seriously though, RL banks have a lot more leeway than what an SL bank would have. The fact that JTF/SLW/SLCapEx is still around, still trying to make things right even under extremely tough circumstances should be more than enough to have some trust in Arb, Bo, and those running things behind the scenes.

I didn't ask to have over 275,000 shares of SLW either. But I am more than understanding of the situation, and I trust Arb and company enough to know that I will get what is rightfully mine when it's possible. You want an example of a dishonest business, look at what Mr. Vandevere is doing with his exchange, and how many people are breaking away from that because of his tantrums. Look at Mr. Brautigan, and how many things are going wrong and the excuses he uses to pass blame on everyone but himself. Then look at Mr. Wise and see that companies aren't delisting, and when a mistake is made that he is being accountable and responsible and trying to correct things. The only scam being run on SLCapEx/SLW is the scam people are running on themselves for not being patient, selling short, and passing blame on people who can't help but deal with a difficult situation placed on them by a "higher power". You want to point a finger, point in a mirror, or at LL, Arb has more than surpassed my expectations as a responsible businessman.

Honoris Causa...
Silverblade Dagger

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Silverblade Dagger ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:45:39 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11085 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
People believe in the worse in other people when the pull a scam like this and you may like it but it IS a scam thats being ran.

If he wanted to stop the bitching all he has to do is answer the questions people have a right to know with real answers not smoke and mirror bullshit he has ben giving.

The people defending him love to throw the you did not complain about the daily intrest.
Ok where did that come from, was it from the investment or was it robing peter to pay paul smoke and mirror bull shit.

He states the money is invested, fine where IS the $250,000 US investmented? Its not his money he invested, Its yours and you have a right to know if he is using it to push drugs to school kids or using it to fund terroristic attacks or if its actually invested at all.

When will it mature and how much capitol gain might it make or will it be a loss. As a so called invester YOU should want to know the answers to those questions Its your money is it working for you or is is going to be a total loss. You don't buy a bucn of stock in something you know will fail unless your a fool with too much money and nothing beter to do with it.


What makes this crooked what REALLY makes it dirty is that those investments are not part of what the stock represents.
The stock represents around 3 million in assets IF that and there is 85 million shares aganst 3 million in assets with a 2 million monthly income and at 2 million buy back a month thats 40 months to buy back all the shares.

The 250,000 us dollars that he owes the so called stock holders is gone as far as we know. He has made absolutly no effort in providing any information on where that money went or if its working for the people who it belongs too.

Its very clear by now that it is NOT working for the so called investers cause if it was then the asets would be part of SLW and dividents would be payed.

You call that honest bussiness? I call it a scam. but thats right, i have a slanted view and do not see things as clearly as those who have their hands in the cookie jar.




in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jini Hammerer ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:44:04 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11082 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
No matter how much you talk about it, discuss legalities, ethicalities, etc... Which situation would you prefer...

1... Arb disappears - with all our cash that's left owing.

2... Arb continues to buy back and pay back as he can and is.

The reason I ask is because those ARE the options - no matter how much you like it or not.

It seems like people will always believe the worst of someone they are p&&sed with no matter how much proof they give of being honest. I guess I'll stop talking about it, get back to laughing at everyone else whinging about it and wait for my 1.03L buyback.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Dave Beaumont ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:13:59 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11081 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 I cant show you. Its to difficult as my english isnt my mothertoungue. I am not good enough to avoid misunderstanding.

BUT you can always force the price down by big (500 000 for example)sellorders. What will happen ? Someone put sellorders lower.
Saturday someone bought up to 0.89 and a few minutes later there was big sellorders at 0.70 or something. Thats not normal when you know there will be buyouts in the end of the month. Maybe there was someone with insiderinformation but i doubt that.

Imagine you have 5 or 10 accounts. And you use them to drive the price down . Why you ask. Why should someone else but daytraders do that ? Yeah. Good thinking.
Who will not be a daytrader when you can double your money or at least increase it with 30-40 % every month.
And my post for Bo to keep an eye on this was because it isnt ethical if someone like ,hypotethical, Arb have multiple accounts to manipulate the price down to buy as cheap as possible. Maybe even have profits for him self by buying and selling from alternate accounts. Those money would go straight in his pocket. Not only buybacks with discount. Also bought shares which will be sold during buybacks. And in RL such business in illegal.

Well. It would be good to eliminate such manners even if its hypotethical. Or is it hypotethical ?

The rich ppl know how to get richer as XX Dagger said.



in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sean4you Shepherd ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:56:54 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11076 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jill Clary ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:52:30 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11074 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 > Sean4you Shepherd
> Shaggy
> Obviously someone got enough shares to manipulate the price
> down. Thats why it drops.
> And it will again after next buyback. I dont think its done for this
> time yet.


Sean, you say obviously? I disagree. Since we do not have short selling here you can only drive the price down by having bought lower and settling for less profit. There are only a few thousand shareholders and if they stop selling low and not play in the selling for less than they think it is worth, doesn't the price rise as it does at each buy back?

If everyone selling right now went and cancelled their orders and ask for .10 more (everyone!), then the price would rise. I'm sure the 'day traders' would still pay and hope to sell for .10 more at the next buy back. Supply and demand. It works. You cannot manipulate the market if there is not supply and demand. I wonder about the buy orders for 200 shares? Huh? Nobody is making money there, why bother unless you have 20 orders for 200 spread out. But then why not buy 4000 at the price you want to pay? Trying to eek out every cent. They can only buy what people offer to sell. If people would not sell under .75 then you can TRY to buy all you want at .74 and nothing happens.

Arb (and other large holders vs. buy/sellers) have to remove the liquidity of the low sellers to bring the rice up. It seems the more people complain the lower the price goes, think about that a bit. If you were to start being less defeatist and not selling low then the price HAS to to up, right? Isn't the fact he is buying shares at all at least give you pause about calling him a crook?

And yes, it seems I'm 'helping' the disparate sellers by happily buying their sub .75 shares when I can and have many sell orders piling up at $1.03 & below simply because I can wait and it seems Arb is buying back. And just in case I am letting a few go before 1.03 as well. You can HAPPILY put me out of the SLW buy/sell by NOT selling, drive the price up, put us in the same boat of waiting. Until then, don't sell unless you have lost faith then it is on you and your price. ALL of my original shares are selling at 1.03... the rest aren't. Am I upset? A little, but then I'm talking barely $100 and in a game where LL's own TOS says L$ are not money. I took a risk and continue to do so.

Hey, I can be wrong. Logically show me. I too have posted elsewhere on this topic so read those too like you did for that other guy.

In any case let us keep discussing this and leave the name calling back in elementary school with the kids ok? I've learned a little here and perhaps we can all be adults? I'm open to being persuaded by thoughtful argument and have you ever been by being called names?

-Shaggy

P.S. Anyone willing to sell me shares at $.50L each? No? Well so I guess they DO have a value.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Shaggy Yer ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:53:08 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11065 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jini Hammerer ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:35:10 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11055 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 I think you are missing the point.

Every one of them.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sean4you Shepherd ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:33:33 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11054 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
"somone that that took your money from you and with out asking converts it into stock thats not worth anything KNOWING the market would do poorly."
- Actually, I put the money into JTF bank with a view to using it to buy stocks as well as gain interest. Of COURSE there was a bit of greed there - INTEREST - isn't that the reason everyone put their cash into the bank? Or did you just think "Hmm, there's a cardboard box there that I can put my money in - I don't know the guy holding it, but it'll be safe!"... Don't kid yourself - you put the money in to get free money back - same as me. As for knowing the market would do poorly... HOW? However did he know, because if HE did, surely a lot of other people would have as well - probably not me - I'm only small-fry compared with loads of traders here, but someone would have known and told us!

"some time in the next decade at the rate he is buying that you will get your money back in full after he used it for years with out paying you a penny on it."
- Since banking with interest was banned by LL, an organisation isn't allowed to pay you back with interest... That's why I use the stock market to make some cash - it's up to you to do the same, or just wait to at least get your cash back as it was.

"thinking its perfectly acceptable that he pays people back at 65 cents on the dollar rather then being honest and paying what he owes." Arb has already said, he'll pay back at 1.03L If people have set their shares to sell at under that, they WILL sell under that. Nobody forced them to do it, they had to set their own shares for sale at a price.

"There is NOTHING about him in this situation that is either above board or straight. He is, at his discression, buying back as slowly as he chooses and can wait till the market is swampped with the tired of waiting folks to swoop in and grab up as much low cost dept as he chooses unannounced and people like you back him for being a good crook."
- I would recommend you sit down with a good book... Preferably one on INVESTMENT... Learn how investments work and the time they take to mature. We'll use dollars here, for the example... If you have $1,000 and you see an investment that will make you 10% profit in a year - you might decide to go for it. So, you hand over your money... You have no access to your money for a year now, but you know that WHEN it comes back, it will come back 10% better than it went away. Ok - with me so far?
Now then, Arbitrage made some investements in the real world. They were made using SL Lindens converted to RL cash (as he said they would be - this was how interest was generated in the first place). Now SOME of those investments have been liquidated, transferred back to SL funds and paid back - other amounts are still tied in investments and won't be available for some time. Basically, if you try and pull back cash you've invested BEFORE the investment period is complete - you will lose your bonus and probably some of the cash you initially invested. So, what to do. Well - keep making money, ride out the storm and prove that people were right to back you. So eventually, these investments WILL mature (or they should) - and as the money comes in, I'm sure shares will be bought back as quick as possible - just like he's doing now with whatever cash he has available now.

"After reviewing YOU'RE posts i see why you back him, you're one of the people that love taking money from other people. bet your one of the people out there with 40,000 buy orders at 62. You don't give a crap about the money taking from other people as long as you make money all is good, bet you feel you deserve it don't you. LOL"
- Be glad you're not a gambler - you'd have lost that bet! If I have some spare cash - then yes, I'll use it to day-trade a little and push my portfolio up in value. I'm just as interested in a new IPO though, as I am in SLW shares at 0.62. I don't have a HUGE amount (by my own standard, and of course everyone has a different view on what a "huge amount" is) of cash in SL Capex - but I have some and I trade to make more of it... Like I said at the beginning - that's why I put money in to begin with, or I'd have kept it on my avatar in-world. Another little example - Say you sold 1,000 shares in SLW to me for 1L each... Then later that day - the shares hit a value of 1.10L each - should I feel sorry for you because you decided to sell at 1L? If that's the case, then every market trader in the world is, by your own words, someone who enjoys taking money from other people without giving a crap.

"No wonder why you think I have a slanted view Your raping people and loving it arn't ya."
- Ah yes, sticks & stones... The last resort of people whose arguments don't hold water. By the way - thanks for taking the time to have a look through my other posts - it's quite interesting to see what view you've formed of me because of them.

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Hey Revolvo, long time-no see....

I think you may be right you know... PLUS...

I'm pretty sure Arb was responsible for the water-shortage of 1987 in my home town too, and possibly for my car running out of fuel last month in the middle of a long motorway drive... I mean, it can't have been MY fault - can it?

Heheh!


in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Dave Beaumont ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:30:53 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11051 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 Arbitrage Wise couldn't liquidate any assets fast enough or completely ran out of any assets that he could liquidate to even be able to pay 1 Linden back to a single account holder. There for leaving him basically with the "Monthly Income 2,000,000" or so to be able to do any future buybacks with. At this rate, It's pretty easy to see that he wouldn't even be able to have enough to even cover a percentage of the people that desperately needed access to the funds that had entrusted to him and to JTF. At some point a light bulb goes off in his head and a scheme develops. Covert the Lindens to stock, let those that have money and aren't desperate to be able to withdraw funds profit by allowing them to help him buy some of the stock up. After all, like the one poster above said, they are going to make a nice little profit off of it eventually and it's real easy to see that from any level of ignorance about money and stock, as long as the person knows how to count and add and subtract. This would allow the value of the stock to fall dramatically due to those trying to get anything they could back in desperation and at the same time set up a situation that allows him to pay back his debt at way less then what it would have been if he left it as Lindens. This also would force any that could wait longer to remain as "stock holders" in SLW even if they hated this though with a passion, but had no choice if they wanted to be able to eventually withdraw their lindens 1 - 1 for what they deposited and a little interest earned. From looking over the "SLWallet Prospectus" http://www.slcapex.com/home/story/SLW/1455 it's pretty obvious that he has a vested interest in keeping as many of us in SLW as possible and for as long as possible and it's full of wishful thinking and double speak about any future income to buy back the stock ant any faster rate then he is doing now. Sort of like me telling my land lord in SL... (I'm pretty and there is a good possibility that I'll meet a rich male in game by the end of the year, and then I'll be able to pay you what I owe you, so you see, you don't have anything to worry about and you shouldn't have any problems waiting on me to pay you.). He uses a lot of cute little phrases to make it sound like there is something coming in the future like "We have many in-world as well as RL businesses that are capable of generating sufficient profits for our investors and shareholders." Note the word "capable" but I'm capable of building a rocket that I can use to fly me to the moon too, with tons of luck from entering every lottery in the world over the next 40 years of my life to get enough funds to do it with. He uses a lot of deflective wording throughout that prospectus in an obvious attempt to try to leave you with the impression there is something there when I can't see much of any sign from hard facts that there is anything definitely there. So back to the stock. We can't see all of who is buying and selling, but it's pretty obvious that there is day trading going on and from looking at Arbitrage's stock amounts, it's not him. For all we know, it's the same people, like say maybe only 50 of them, that are constantly buying and selling the "stock" between them trying to see if they can make any additional gains while they are waiting for one more person to get so desperate that they put their sock on the market for a heavy loss and drives the value back down when that is bought and then the small group go back to trading between each other. Arbitrage, to take full advantage of this can keep any indication of when he has another month income available to do a buy back, simply has to wait for one of these low stock value days to do it to maximize his gain from buying back at "market value" and hope that not many notice that he is buying back and raise their sale rate on him. Arbitrage's scenario, that he gives, is another instance of double speak and deflective techniques. After all, he is the one that created this situation in the first place and those people that he wants you to believe are going to make a killing at the rest of our expense, are going to do so anyway and he knows it and the one poster above gave you all a real factual instance on just how they are going to do it. So his argument is meaningless and he was obvious to me, counting on some doing just this when he erased the Lindens symbol off the end of our balances and called it stock. He wins no matter what and these others are going to win too, no matter what, that is, if someone from the government doesn't swoop down on him and seize all his assets and none of us with "stock" ever get a single Lindens available to withdraw again after that.

Oh and by the way, that good will and tons of people, in game, that he is suggesting will be willing to do business with him on ad systems and such. He sort of leaves out the thought that guess who, but it's most of use that had the money to do business of this type with him except the small account holders and it's us with in game business that would need such services. Does anyone in their right mind think that those of us that might have would do anything other then spit in the face of any Representative of his companies that dared to step on our land, after he pulled this stunt on all of us?

No my dear defenders of his recent actions, if he was truly honest anymore, he would make it clear in hard facts just what income he had coming an and when, would never have converted our money to "stock", would have asked for volunteers to wait so that he could give Lindens to those that had to have them now, would never have considered shorting any of us on what he pays back to us and would have put the bulk of his energy into finding ways to liquidate more or get more income coming in to provide more Lindens available to be withdrawn faster. No, if he was honest, he would have done everything possible to make sure we all got our Lindens available to us, in full and as fast as he possibly could and given us hard facts and continual updates on exactly what his asset situation was. Any nitwit can see through what he is doing, no matter how much double speak and deflective language he is using. Don't judge me wrong, up until he pulled this stunt, there where probably few that where a bigger defenders of him, in SL and the group IM Chat then me, right after LL closed the doors on JTF and I have met and talked him in game and got a really good impression of him from that. Now, after him pulling this stunt, I can't stand him and as soon as I manage to get my Lindens back from him, it's going to take a lot more then hell freezing over again for me to every do any transactions with him or any of his "companies" again and I know that I'm not the only one that had money in JTF that feels this way or close too the way I feel about him now.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jill Clary ]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:43:10 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11050 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
…Oh, just the usual, a little buying, a little selling, it’s all good. How about you?

…Yeah, I don’t even bother responding to greedy rabid weasels like him anymore. They’re just looking to someone to label "stupid" for being patient… while our portfolios keep going up in value.

…Oh, I completely agree. Hey, even when it rains or I miss my train, I blame that slimy snake Arbitrage. You know, he’s the reason there’s an ozone hole over Antarctica.

…Oh yeah, and for the whole mortgage crisis, too. You know, I’ll never forgive him for working his butt off to keep this whole thing viable. I would have MUCH preferred it if he’d just vanished with all the L$ when LL dropped the banking ban warhead. But no, the creep had to make something work. Guess we’ll just have to live with it…

…Yeah, see ya. Remember: buy low, sell high. Or, if you hate Arb, just sell.

Peace out.





in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Revolvo Rotaru ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:31:26 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11047 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Slanted view is thinking eventually, some time in the next decade at the rate he is buying that you will get your money back in full after he used it for years with out paying you a penny on it.

a slanted view is thinking its perfectly acceptable that he pays people back at 65 cents on the dollar rather then being honest and paying what he owes.

There is NOTHING about him in this situation that is either above board or straight. He is, at his discression, buying back as slowly as he chooses and can wait till the market is swampped with the tired of waiting folks to swoop in and grab up as much low cost dept as he chooses unannounced and people like you back him for being a good crook.


After reviewing YOU'RE posts i see why you back him, you're one of the people that love taking money from other people. bet your one of the people out there with 40,000 buy orders at 62. You don't give a crap about the money taking from other people as long as you make money all is good, bet you feel you deserve it don't you. LOL

No wonder why you think I have a slanted view Your raping people and loving it arn't ya.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jini Hammerer ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:53:04 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11045 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
But we ALL use the same software when we trade on the exchange - The way it works is simple - if you apply to buy x-amount of stocks and specify a MAXIMUM price you are prepared to pay, then the lowest price shares will sell first. So now answer THIS... Did Arb set people's shares to sell at less than 1L per share - NO, don't be stupid... People who panicked or just wanted out at a loss (take what you can and run mentality) have set shares to sell at low prices - they will be bought back first, while the rest of us, with our shares set to sell at 1.03L wait and eventually get all our cash back - just like it was originally...

So - if you don't want to play this game (which in your slanted view is bound to look crooked, but actually is totally above board and straight) - just set you shares to sell at a really low rate and run off with what YOU can get. Let me know if you want to sell those shares at a low-low rate - I'll take them off you! But if you want the full amount, stop whinging and take a number!

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Dave Beaumont ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:25:55 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11042 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674

I never asked to be in a market never the les hold stock in a company that is 79 million in the hole and you wander why the stocks in the shitter.

I don't want to play this crooked game of see who I can screw out of their money first. He is not putting out any real information for one reason and one reason alone. He is trying to get out of his debts as cheaply as possable, not as quickly as posable not as fairly as possable and certainly not honestly paying what he owes. SLW is not benifiting from him gaining stocks at less then face value ONLY he does.


He never provides real information on where the money really went, where it is or if its still earning capital.
If or when it will mature. When he is going to do lagitimate buy backs. Hell he is not even disclosing when he does a buy back. Only reason people know is they are watching his holdings.

Thats wrong, i don't give a crap what anyone says if it was a real company the CEO would be in prison.


You folks who love gamling with yoru money more power to you. I don't trust people who hide facts. I don't trust people who take peoples money with out their permition and converts it to stock so they can pay les then what they owe. lets se you try that shit with a bank and see how it flys.




in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jini Hammerer ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:36:14 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11040 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
When a market buy happens, you get all the shares you can for the lowest price, and gradually move up till you either run out of funds, or reach the number of shares you wanted.

If you wanted to buy 15, 000 LLFS shares (just an example) you maybe would get 3,000 at 0.52, then 900 at 0.53, 2,100 at 0.63 and the rest of them at 0.75. The same mechanic is at work for SLW shares. If people sell them low, others can buy them low.

If you want 100% of your cash back, sell at 1.03 and wait till all the lower shares are bought up (by Arb or others).

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Servme Nakamura ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:11:35 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11029 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674

If you feel your software or what ever your investments going to pay off, get a loan from a bank. Ohh thats right they will not let you pay it back at 60 cents on a dollar.

You are robing these people for your own private profit.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Jini Hammerer ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:13:28 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11028 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
I'm sorry, this sounds like full-scale ass-kissing... But what have I got to gain from it? Nothing - that's what.

Back in January, when LL droped the bank-ban on us, it caused a bank-run. Arbitrage issued a statement within hours. To give a VERY loose interpretation, the announcement was "It's going to take time, but you will all get your money back".

SLW shares were then issued to everyone who had a balance, and the promise made to buy back each share at 1L (and in fact, 1.03 to overcome the commission as well). Now.. If every single person had set their shares to sell at 1.03, then every single person would eventually get every single linden-dollar back. But, that didn't happen... People started selling their shares for less, drove down the price and made it what it is today. I actually BOUGHT some of the low-price shares that people sold off - I see these as a good investment because I know THIS...

Every share I posess in SLW WILL be bought back at 1.03L each. It might not be tomorrow, or next month - but it WILL happen eventually. Arbitrage could have run away from the situation long ago, but didn't - this is plain proof that he is committed to paying back what was invested.

So shoot me down in flames people - I don't actually care! I will get my money back! If you have SLW shares and you want the proper rate for them - set them to sell at 1.03 and WAIT. And yes, I know that some people needed the money "NOW" at the time the bank stopped - but no matter how you look at it, no matter how you spin it - Arbitrage Wise was not to blame for this situation.

*Dave Beaumont puts his hands behind his head, takes a drag of his final cigarette and waits for the volley of bullets*

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Dave Beaumont ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:37:16 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11023 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
However, I simply ask that you do not question two things, my intention and integrity. We are two months into this mess, and I am continuing to show that I'm trying to honor my obligations. An easier road would have been to simply declare bankruptcy and move on. Yes, a collective class action lawsuit can be filed against me, but it'll only go to prove that ALL of the funds were indeed spent on building SLW, and none to support my already frugal lifestyle or real life ventures.

At the end of the day, what I do is solely dedicated to fulfilling my obligations. I have no problem with people criticizing WHAT I'm doing, but please, do not question WHY I'm doing it.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Arbitrage Wise ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:34:42 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11016 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
If we do what you suggest, and taking my example above, we would give Dan, who was not an original depositor, .25L in pure profits - profits that is better served later to buy back original depositor shares.

And if we did that, it will still take LONGER to pay everything back than if we did what we are currently doing now. There's only 2 options everyone has right now... you can have SOME of your money NOW, or ALL of it LATER. We cannot do both - which is what everyone wants.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Arbitrage Wise ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:17:11 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11015 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Spm Aviatik ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:10:40 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11014 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Our debt started out at 85M, which were all converted to shares. I started out with basically no shares, so whatever shares outstanding that do not belong to me now represents the debt still owed.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how much burden it will be on the system to show every single order on the block. I would assume that the time it would take to load all the data would put tremendous pressure on the server if multiple users were trying to load similar data. So I cannot see creating a system to allow viewing of ALL orders.

We do plan to buy back shares up to 1.03L. But in order to do that, we must buy up all the cheap shares in order to get to that point. As I have pointed out before, if the prices are at or below 1.03L when we do a buy back, then we have no problem paying those prices. But it would not be in the best interest of our original depositors to pay OTHERS full price for shares that they bought cheap off of the market.

Think of it this way: Bob and Sue was an original depositor. Bob couldn't wait for us to buy his shares back, so he sold it cheap on the market to Dan for .65L per share. Dan then turns around and sell it on the market for .75L per share. If we did what everyone expected and pay 1L for every share, we would be giving Dan an extra .25L per share, rather than just paying Dan .75L per share, and having an extra .25L that we saved to eventually buy Sue's share.

This will be a long and tedious process. We are only 2 months into this process and have already bought back over 6Mil shares. We cannot magically come up with 85Mil that was spent building softwares that have not yet presented a revenue stream. However, we are doing our best to honor our moral contract and have shown that we are continuing to buy shares. And as more shares come off the market, prices will continue to rise, and we will keep buying the shares all the way up to 1.03L. Your shares WILL eventually get bought out - it just takes time.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Arbitrage Wise ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:54:56 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11013 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Account records clearly show what shares were bought and when they bought. If they were BOUGHT as shares...then they were not original cash deposits. That seems pretty easy to figure out.

I am not made comfortable at all, that the PROMISE and GUARANTEE of a 1 for 1 buyback....now seems to simply be a factor of the current trade value.

We ARE talking about the payback of our invested dollars, and the moral contract that was made. We set the sell price at 1.03, and they would be bought back at that value. NOT WHEN IT BECOMES THE MARKET VALUE...but as soon as possible.

There are enough people already upset. Please stick to your promise of making buybacks at 1.03. That is the ONLY thing that has kept your stock alive at all, my friend. Otherwise EVERYONE would have dumped it for pennies long ago.

Do not screw over people who have, and still do trust you. Your last post here...Appears to announce either to be a deliberate change in the policy regarding buybacks...OR....it is the bringing to light of the TRUE policy that was kept hidden for over two months now.

Either way, it is path that leads to darkness. Remain true to your promises, and do not let greed turn you away from your moral and ethical contracts.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sandy Barnett ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:04:04 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11011 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
It would give those of us waiting for our money to be returned to us just what % of the total DEBT, has in fact been paid down by SLW/Arbitrage. Only seeing the top 10 buy and sell orders is not enough. It is a great window, but I would like the ability to be able to scan ALL buy and sell orders. That would also reduce the effort to calculate the % from time to time and prepare a statement. The data would be there to be seen by everyone.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sandy Barnett ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:41:33 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11010 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Secondly, forcing us to buy shares back at 1L will only delay the repayment process, as funds that could have been used to pay down debt will go out as profits to traders - those who's bought shares at a discount, and will get 1L per share, rather than the market price.

The fastest way for us to clear our debt is simple. Let us keep buying the shares off the market until all of the cheap shares are gone. As supply decrease, prices will increase, simple economics. Yes, those who are waiting to get their shares bought at 1L per share will have to wait longer. But if we had to buy every share back at 1L, it will take even longer.

As for announcing a buy back, that serves no purpose then to alert the sharks to bump their sell prices up knowing that it'll be bought soon. Therefore, more money will go out as profits to traders rather than to paying down.

When shares are bought back, they go into my personal account. The debt is held by me personally, not SLWallet, and funds use to buy shares back are my personal funds, not SLW. If we do buy shares back with any SLW profits, then those shares will go into treasury and not my personal portfolio.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Arbitrage Wise ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:47:25 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/11008 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 I believe you need to monitor who are buying and selling or else there is an open playground.
Excactly as you did 2007 when you checked big sells.

I am not trying to be a troublemaker, i know by experience how easy it is to manipulate markets with very low liquidity.Even high liquidity markets can be manipulated. Thats why its regulated by laws what is allowed what is not.

Actually i have been full time trading for almost 2 years and study how , for example , the company OPTIVER(http://www.optiver.nl) push price up or down depending what their target is. Optiver is a large ARBITRAGE company which earn money on arbitrage trading on exchanges in London, Stockholm, New York etc. Making billions every year.

Please, show those who was forced into this conversion some respect and keep an eye on who is doing bussiness. Even if you havent got the ability to track accounts down to those who owns multiple avatars and accounts.
Dont make it easier for some to earn huge amounts money on behalf of former JTF depositors.
You know, there is still ppl who have put sellorder for 1.03 as so many said they should. And they will not be able to sell for many months if SLCAPEX allow same persons with multiple avatars and accounts to manipulate the price.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sean4you Shepherd ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:20:14 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10995 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by TGBecky Jewell ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:39:19 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10987 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 Sean,

The current shareprice of SLW is probably more related to a handful of daytraders buying shares at .65-.66 or so and immediately turning around and flipping them for .69-.70 per share. With a trading commission of only 2-2.5% it's relatively easy to daytrade (even if the profits are slim).

As long as there are sellers willing to sell at those levels it really doesn't matter how many shares Arbitrage buys back... with 85M shares issued there is still a HUGE public float in SLW.

If folks want to see the shareprice get to +1.00 per share then they have to be unwilling to sell them into the market at less than that... purely a matter of supply and demand.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Bogart Beck ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:08:22 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10986 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 Obviously someone got enough shares to manipulate the price down. Thats why it drops.
And it will again after next buyback. I dont think its done for this time yet.


in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sean4you Shepherd ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:23:23 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10983 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
You'd think by now we'd have gotten rid of all the people willing to dump shares at less than 25% discount.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Shaggy Yer ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:51:05 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10978 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Spm Aviatik ]]> Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:05:43 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10941 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
If such a situation comes like the last banking ban i were

not rich enough to pay all out from my own pocket

not smart enough to convert it into worthless shares

not scammer enough to run away

not weird enough to give anyone other the guilt

Because of that i never would invest other people money cause i wouldnt have the perfect solution for such situation and it is for me much more worth to be able to look every day into the mirror than any kind of project or money, might, prestige or whatever...



in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Hellge Schnyder ]]> Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:16:45 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10931 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Spm Aviatik ]]> Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:31:33 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10922 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
A lot of traders would set their sell orders in the right time and the regular JT customers wouldn be paid because of too high amounts at the prizes between 0.95 and 1.03.

It would be better Arb pays the old amounts of his customers 1:1 when he is able to, behind of slcapex...

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Hellge Schnyder ]]> Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:08:03 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10870 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
So with those shares the company can pay anyone, such as programmers.

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Shaggy Yer ]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:26:41 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10739 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
well, about the retirement - since the programmer who was about to do a lot of stuff will be payed in shares (unless that has changed and I missed it lol) I assume that firstly they are added to Arbitrages portfolio and then transfered to the developer. I like this idea though - since he gains if the company gains.

greetings, Nya Raymaker

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Nya Raymaker ]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:54:36 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10731 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
I have to give them kudos - so far they have done a bang on job. Would love to see how many USD's were wired into arbs account during the life of JTF? I can gaurentee alot more USD's showed up in his bank account then any of the depositers are ever going to see back.

When is LL going to end the maddness?

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Ivan Halfpint ]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:41:46 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10730 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sportsbets Writer ]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:30:14 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10725 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Scott Nestler ]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:25:39 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10724 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by SynCere Talon ]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:16:44 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10721 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674 The best bet (buy) on slcapex imaho is:
Buy SLW low (bought myself @0.65/0.66) and wait&hope for a buyback in the future.
Ok it´s gambling not investing, but i love to gamble ;)

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Sportsbets Writer ]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:36:22 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10719 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674
Are you shooting for a monthly or every-three-weeks?

When do you expect the next one? April 1-2?

in topic See, buyback has pushed the price back up L$.20 average by Shaggy Yer ]]> Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:36:31 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/SLW/1674/10617